Friday, October 19, 2012

Ripley Times

Well just as promised I received the newspaper clipping in the mail today from the Ripley Times dated 20 Jul 1900 about William Tribble's murder.  And it has such detail in it.  I was so excited to be able to come home and share this with my Dad, who is here for a little visit.  He said that he had never heard this story and then started talking about how his family didn't really talk about this kind of stuff.  His family didn't really talk about much on either the Adamson or the Pattee side.  The only story I ever remember hearing anyting about is the story of my Grandpa Ralph Adamson....but that's a different post. ;)

So here it is a copy of the article....big THANK YOU to Alison at the Thomas-Hilite Memorial Library in Perkins, Oklahoma for going the extra mile.  Wonderful!!

If you would like a copy of this article please just shoot me an email and I will more than happy to share!

Monday, October 15, 2012

William Tribble

Sometimes an ancestor will just grab hold of you and you can't let them go...for whatever reason.  I keep coming back to William Tribble,  Amy Margaret (Duel) Tribble's husband.  I spent a good portion of yesterday working on trying to verify his death and looking for his parents.  Amy, who went by Margaret, is my Great Grandmother Bertie (Duel) Pattee's sister.  I have been in touch with a descendant of William and Margaret's for quite a few years.

One of the stories she told me was about William.  Here is the story told by my cousin

"Margaret was twice widowed.  She and her first husband were living out on some land, I'm not sure where, and they didn't have their own well and had to get water on the neighbor's land.  The kids would go and haul the water home every day.  One day, the neighbor met them, and said, if they wanted any more water, they should just send Bertie and not the boys.  She was somewhere between 10 and 12 at the time.  They ran home and told their parents, and William Tribble, their father, went to confront the neighbor.  The neighbor met him at the fence with a rifle or a shotgun, I'm not sure which.  The neighbor got belligerent and stuck the barrel of the gun right on William's chest, and he grabbed the barrel with his right hand, and was shoving it off, when it went off right over his heart.  Margaret and Bertie had to go out with a quilt to drag home his body.

Right after that, Margaret loaded up the kids and everything into a buckboard wagon and moved West.  I do not believe she remarried any time soon."

********* Update*******

Right as I was writing this post and messaging my cousin to get the ok to post her story, I get a call from the very nice lady at the Thomas-Wilhite Memorial Library in Perkins, Payne, Oklahoma, who has been helping me with my research today.  The death of William was to have taken place there in July 1900 and I called looking for some record or newspaper article in regards to what happened.  I called first thing this morning, I talked to Alison (the very nice lady helping me) and she informed me that she would look but that newspaper's for that time period were very spotty.  She also checked the Perkins County Death Index and didn't find anything.  Things were not looking hopeful when she emailed me again to tell me she was unable to find any newspaper's for Perkins at that time period.  And that they probably wouldn't even be available with the Oklahoma Historical Society as a lot of those papers were "lost" before they could be archived.  I had decided that I was not going to be lucky today, and was feeling a little bummed but very grateful to Alison at the library for helping me in the first place.

I decided to write about how I was going to move forward with this research, when the best phone call today came in.  It was Alison, with some very wonderful news!! She said that she was frustrated with the holes in their collection and decided to take a little time and see what she could find from the other collections they have for the towns nearby, when she hit paydirt!! Yay, for her going the extra mile for me.  And this my friends is why I always say to "kill them with kindness" in regards to asking for help.  If I had been cranky or treated her like it was her "duty" to help me, she may have not gone that extra bit and helped me with this.

So you want to know....what did she find??? A front page article in the "Ripley Times" dated 20 Jul 1900 "That Murder at Perkins: W.J. Tripple (that is the spelling in the paper) Shot and Instantly Killed by Mr. Albright"   OH MY!!! Could we really have found an article verifying the death of William Tribble? Why....yes I do believe we have!! Everything fits, so the mis-spelling of William's last name is not to troubling. Alison was kind enough to read me the article over the phone and oh my....what details! They have one public scanner that I guess is not the best and she was worried that it would degrade the quality of the paper to scan or fax it.  But she very happily offered to put the copy that, she was able to make, in the mail for me.  I will hopefully have it by Friday! I can't wait.

Always....ASK! The probability that there would be an article in the local newspaper, that would have been saved was low.  But I took a chance and asked anyways...I mean really the worst they could say is no.  I asked and I received.  You never know what is out there, and there is only one way to find out.  Don't be afraid to call the museums, libraries and even the recorder/clerks office at a local courthouse.  Even if they can't help you, they most likely know who can.  I have spent hours calling recorder's office's all over North and South Dakota looking for records.  Most of the time, they are polite and helpful.

My next step.....since in the article it states that Mr. Albright was taken to the jail in Stillwater, which wasn't far away, I will try the Stillwater Public Library.  Alison from Perkins said that they are very helpful there.  I sure hope there is more in the papers there, since he hopefully had a trial.  I want to know what happened to the cranky Mr. Albright also.

Can't wait to share the newspaper article with you.

Friday, October 12, 2012

Working again whoo hoo!!

I really don't know what happened to all this free time I was supposed to get when my youngest started Kindergarten....but I think it took sail and left me on the shore.  I have been so busy the last two months, that I am still reeling that it's already the middle of October.  Ok, my rant is over on being too busy all the

So yesterday, I get an email from a cousin asking if I knew when my 2nd Great Grandparents George R. and Amy Duel became members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints? Before or after they moved to Oregon??  Well, I was quite surprised by this as I didn't think they were members at all.  I got this surge of excitement as I am the only member (besides one beautiful Aunt) in my family.  YES!! I am a "mormon"! And I love it!! Anyways, I thought oh, I just have to know more about this.  As it is something near and dear to my heart....imagine that! :)  So I emailed her back and said I would look into it...and I immediately dropped everything and hopped on the computer.  So glad I didn't have anything important that needed to be done, because I haven't been able to stop working since then.

I didn't right away go look to see if they had been baptized members of the church before death.  Instead, I wanted to take a look at what I had on them in my family tree on  I quickly realized that I had work to do, as it was a mess.  I have talked before about how when I first started my research, I was so excited to see that others had been working on my lines, that I started adding ancestry family trees to mine, thinking that it was all correct.  But as I quickly learned, those trees are made my humans....and well you know us humans we ALL make mistakes. :) Lesson learned but I am still finding problems from adding those well intentioned but misleading leaves to my precious tree.  So here were some I have not looked at since then.  So I started working on verifying all the information that was attached to George Robinson Duel and his second wife Amy Adkins, my biological line through my Dad and his mother Wavel, and her mother Bertie (Duel) Pattee.

Oh, and I have loved every minute that I have got to work on these great people and their family in the last two days. I did late last night, go look and see that neither George nor Amy were baptized before death.  So I emailed my cousin back and she said she had just figured they were members, since some of their children were members.  This I didn't know either.  I know that Bertie Free Duel Pattee their daughter and my direct line was not a member of the church.  She was "christian science" and I don't think it was the same as what Tom Cruise now practices.  My Mom said that my Grandma Wavel was christian science to and that she had mentioned that she learned it from her mother.  To them christian science was that they didn't believe in going to doctors to be healed.  Although, towards the end my Mom was able to talk my Grandma into going to see a doctor. Or so the family story goes....

After, emailing with my cousin, I decided to check George and Amy's children to see if any of them were baptized before death.  And there was one to be found...Heenan Duel b. 29 Jul 1860 St. Joseph, Buchanan, Missouri d. Jun 1939 possible in CA.  So far I haven't found any of his brothers and sisters that could have been members but I am not ruling it out.  I don't think that George and Amy were members though I will still have to prove it.  Even having one Great Grand Uncle be a member is pretty cool to me.  I can't wait to learn more about him.  Though I will wait to do more in depth research on him in particular until I make sure that I have all the vitals and census work done.  I will work on all the children though. 

Today, I have been mainly working on George and Amy's daughter Amy Margaret (Duel) Tribble and her family.  I keep getting pulled away from the computer so I haven't gotten far.  But I know one of Amy's descendants, who got in touch with me a couple years ago.  And we are friends on facebook also.  I love her tons.  This really is one of the best parts of genealogy is meeting all the new "cousins" I have that I had no idea that existed.   I will keep working throughout the weekend, though I have a busy day ahead of me for tomorrow.  I will try to squeeze in a little work.

George Robinson Duel my 2nd Great Grandfather

George & Amy Duel, Margaret (Amy) Tribble, Bertie Oxford & Virgie Oxford
This photo was given to me by my cousin Shelly.

Thursday, October 11, 2012

My results are in...

Well, the results are in...and I have a little work...OK research (which for me isn't really work but fun times lol) ahead of me.

The one thing I can say about this test is, it doesn't bog you down with all the talk of haplogroups and chromosomes.  So it's not easy to get lost.  Pretty straight forward.  As in, this is me broken down:

Britsh Isles 68%
Scandinavian 15%
Finnish/Volga-Ural  11%
Southern European 6%

Then it gives me a list of possible "cousins" that I might be related to.  And these cousins are based on family trees that have been compiled on their website. The one on the very top of the list, I know and actually have been emailing today as we discuss our family.  I forgot to mention our DNA tests or mine I should say.  Still not sure if she has taken one.  And then the list continues.  As I go down this quite extensive list, I still am not seeing anything in common other than a surname or two.  For this aspect of the DNA test through, I will have to do some more work to decide if it is worth my time or money.  I will update as I start delving into all these cousins.

The cool thing about the ethnicity part of the test is that it has proven what I already kinda don't get any whiter than me.  And as my close family will attest to I am pretty white. LOL.  No seriously, this is very cool.  I am still working on finding any ancestors that had "crossed the pond" to the big, beautiful U.S.A.  But someday, I will and now I have directions to search.

Here is a little idea of where all these places mean:

British Isles: England, Ireland, Scotland and Wales
Scandinavian: Norway, Sweden and Denmark
Finnish/Volga-Ural: Russia and Finland
Southern European: Italy, Spain and Portugal

The drawback is that it doesn't say from which side these come from, i.e. paternal or maternal.  I would like to know from which side does the Southern European come from.  Quite a few members on my Mother's side are darker complected and have dark hair.  And do both sides come from the British Isles??? I have my Dad's DNA results, so once I figure out how to read them properly I can compare his to mine and see what is left.  I am pretty sure the Scandinavian comes from my Dad, as the only thing I could glean from his results was that he has quite a bit Norwegian in him.  Another thing that is for sure....I have my work cut out for me. :D

Do I recommend the DNA test?? I am still not sure.  Sorry for those that were looking for a clear, cut answer.  I think time will tell.  They are still in Beta testing.  I am hoping that as they get more results and update the program, things will change and we will have more information available to us.

Am I happy I took the test?? Absolutely, there is nothing quite like seeing where your from highlighted on a map of the world. Yes, I haven't pinpointed who came from these places or when but someday..... 

Just seen this little disclaimer on my DNA results page:
 Remember, a continually growing database of DNA samples and new scientific discoveries mean new findings. So if your ethnicity results get updated over time, it's a good thing and all a part of the service.